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Does Eliminating WWW In A URL Impact Search Engine Optimization?
By Jill Whalen - May 04, 2001 (From the Rank Write Roundtable Newsletter)

~~~High Search Engine Rankings~~~

From: Lisa Steinhart

Trying to create a URL with a .com extension is darn near impossible - everything is taken! My company has elected to create a naming structure that ties together a group of sites we support.

The structure we've created eliminates the WWW prefix of a URL. For example if our service were named PrivateEye, our URL would be:

http://privateeye.companyname.com (we've registered "companyname.com").

Each of our industry-focused sites that belong to the PrivateEye service would be structured as follows:

http://RestaurantEye.companyname.com
http://MetalsEye.companyname.com
http://PlasticsEye.companyname.com

I planned to submit each site with different META titles, keywords, and descriptions (after I've written killer copy of course!).

Does the elimination of WWW in a URL have an impact on search engine optimization? And is each URL as described above viewed as a separate URL or as a subdomain by the directories and engines? If they are perceived as subdomains how do I submit to the search engines/directories effectively?

Lisa Steinhart
Marketing Director
ECNext


~~~Jill's Response~~~

Lisa,

Thanks for your question!

First, I have to take exception to the notion that creating a domain name with the dot.com extension is impossible. I strongly feel that it's simply a matter of being creative! There are still tons and tons of available names if you think about it. For instance, take RankWrite.com. It had no value to anyone before we thought it up and branded it into something. So, of course, it was available when we went looking for names. (RankRight.com was also available, which actually could have had more value as an SEO company site.) We purchased both of these just last year. The trick is to put two unrelated words together that perhaps don't mean anything right now, but that you can build into *your* brand somewhere down the line. I don't subscribe to the "I-gotta-have-tons-of-keywords-in-my-domain.com" idea of creating domain names, either. I think that's just silly.

Thus said, yes, the way you've laid out your URL structure would be considered subdomains of your main domain. I think this is a great way to further your brand while not having to worry about purchasing additional domain names! It is my understanding that the spidering search engines have no problems with these types of URLs. I've never heard of any problems with not having www in the URL, so I wouldn't worry about that aspect.

What I would do is make sure that each subdomain is an entire site, not just one page. If each site is only one or two pages, you're getting into doorway page territory, and that's something you want to avoid. If you want to use your subdomains as actual subsites, create at least three to five pages within each site. Just think of all the great keyphrases you can target this way! If you shoot for two or three phrases per site (with some overlap within the pages), you've gotten yourself some great exposure in the engines. Do NOT simply point all these subdomains back to your main domain. Again, if you do that, you're teetering on the edge of doorway page marketing (and remember, we don't like that!).

Where directories are concerned, things may or may not be as easy. I'd be willing to bet that you'd have a good shot at getting your subdomains listed in DMOZ as long as they were all targeting very different products or services. If NBCi sticks around (unlikely), you should also be able to get listed there. I'm also fairly certain that if you were willing to pay LookSmart's *bribe fee* that you'd get your subdomains easily listed with them. Hopefully, the sites would all belong in different categories, as that would help. Plus, you don't really need a whole bunch of listings in the same category...why compete with yourself?

Now Yahoo! is a different story. I've heard of many instances where they check to see who owns the site submitted, and if the company that owns it already has a listing (even though it's a different URL), they won't add it (yes, even when you slip them some green!). However, I've also heard of them adding these types of subsites. The question is whether or not you're willing to gamble with your $199, because that's really what it comes down to...a crapshoot. If Yahoo! feels at all like you're simply trying to get additional listings with them, you can pretty much fuggetaboutit. But if you truly do have unique content on each site, you *may* have a chance. Do NOT try to submit all the subsites at once to Yahoo!. Submit one to start. If you win the lottery and get in, then perhaps it might be a good idea to wait a few months before submitting another one. And just remember, you're pressing your luck with each and every submittal. I've actually heard stories of them removing existing sites when a new one from the same company gets submitted. My personal philosophy is to leave well enough alone. If you've got one (or two) listings that are bringing in traffic, you're probably better off to live with that. If the listings you have aren't bringing you much (or any) traffic, then you don't have as much to lose, and might want to go for it. Use your own judgment depending on the contents of your own pocketbook!

Hope this helps!

Jill


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