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Yahoo's Changes - Winners and Losers
By Jill Whalen - October 18, 2001 (From the Rank Write Roundtable Newsletter)

~~~Search Engine Optimization~~~

From: Jamie Kiley

Hi Jill,

I don't think you have addressed Yahoo's new changes in their search results. I'd love to know what things have changed and what I should expect now.

Thanks,

Jamie Kiley
www.kianta.com


~~~Jill's Response~~~

Hey Jamie,

I had thought about commenting on Yahoo's recent changes a few issues ago, but then I noticed lots of other newsletters and articles were already discussing the subject, so I didn't want to look like a big 'ol copycat! Danny Sullivan gave a nice overview in his Search Engine Watch paid subscription newsletter, and so did Brent Winters in his Market Position newsletter. There was also a recent article on ClickZ by Paul Bruemmer that outlined the Yahoo changes.

But since you asked...

If you already have a site listed in Yahoo, their new way of displaying sites may help your site be found more easily. On the other hand, it may also hurt. Unfortunately, you have no control over your current Yahoo listing, so there's no sense getting bent out of shape over it. Where Yahoo is concerned, whatever will be, will be. Because it's a directory that already has your site information in the form of your URL, Yahoo title and Yahoo description, changes to your Web site content or HTML Title and Meta tags, will have no affect on your listing.

So which sites are the big losers and which are the big winners?

LOSERS: Sites with company names (or a Yahoo title) that start with letters at the beginning of the alphabet (A, B, C) may see a drop in Yahoo traffic.

This is because instead of bringing up reams of category links, most searches now bring up actual Web page URLs. Previously, the relevant categories would be shown first. The searcher would often click these categories, and then browse through them to find sites that seemed relevant. If your company name began with the letter "A," you had a good chance of getting a click-through, as the listings within categories are alphabetical. However, with the new changes, fewer people will be browsing through the categories than before, therefore, those alphabetical listings will not be quite as important.

WINNERS: Sites with company names and URLs that use keyphrases.

These types of sites have always done well in Yahoo; however, they have a chance to do even better now, because they won't be buried under all those category listings. The top-ten sites that currently come up for any given search usually have some form of the keyphrase in the Yahoo title, URL, and/or Yahoo description.

On the surface, it makes a lot of sense for Yahoo to structure their results this way, because titles, URLs and descriptions should certainly be using the most relevant keyphrases to describe the given site. If Yahoo were spidering sites and using the info it gleaned from it's crawling activities, then I would agree. However, let's look at Yahoo's submission criteria for a second. One of the main things Yahoo has always stressed is that your submitted title *must* be your company name. Generally, *real* company names are not keyword rich. They're just not. Along the same lines, *real* company URLs are also not keyword rich. They usually emulate the company name. Therefore, Yahoo's "algorithm" makes it nearly impossible for *real* companies to get a good a top-ten listing, simply by the fact that their company name is probably not keyword rich. All hope is not lost, however. The Yahoo description is also important, so if your keyphrases are in your description, you do still have a shot. The problem is you'll most likely be listed beneath those sites that have keywords and phrases in their Yahoo title and their URL (and probably their description too).

In a perfect world, all of that wouldn't matter, because companies that just so happened to have their keywords in their company name and URL would most certainly be the most relevant, and Yahoo would be serving up the best results possible. Unfortunately, the Internet is anything but a perfect world. Instead, it's rife with people and companies who want to get to the top of the search results and will do anything to get there. These people have figured out (and please...it doesn't take a rocket scientist to put two and two together), that they can simply start a new company. Perhaps a new company called, "My Best Keyphrase R US, Inc." Of course, it makes perfect sense that My Best Keyphrase R US, Inc. would need the matching domain name of www.MyBestKeyPhraseRUS.com. And it also stands to reason that the description submitted to Yahoo would include "my best keyphrase."

So now we have a Yahoo listing that looks something like this:

My Best KeyPhrase R US, Inc. - offers my best keyphrases to all those who need my best keyphrase on a daily basis.
http://MyBestKeyPhraseRUS.com

For real life examples, do a search for "search engine optimization" at Yahoo. There's no "Search Engine Optimization R US, Inc.," but there are many that are very close to that! If most of those top results are REAL company names that weren't created simply to obtain a good Yahoo listing, I'll dance on the tables (with Heather, of course) at the next conference!

I'm sure that Yahoo has no intention of encouraging people to spam their directory with these sorts of sites; however, this is exactly what they're doing by ranking sites with their current formula, and by forcing people to use their company names as their Yahoo title. If they keep this method up, and continue to add these types of "companies" to their directory, Yahoo will lose whatever usefulness it might have had, in my opinion.

Don't get me wrong; I actually like Yahoo's new way of displaying results. I thought the old way with categories cluttering up the page was a real pain. But until they can do something to stop the contrived companies from beating out the real companies, they won't get a big thumb's up from me.

Many thanks to Doug Heil from the IHelpYouServices Forum, for putting the bug in my ear about all of this.

Jill


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