I'm continuing to work my way through questions submitted during a webinar I gave on Website Architecture. You can check out Parts one, two, three, four, five and six. This post covers questions on URLs, breadcrumb navigation, CMS, Database driven sites, 301 and 302 redirects, navigation, heading tags, broken links and HTML theft. Most of my answers today are relatively short and too the point, which I'm sure will please many of you that feel I ramble. :)

What about websites using CMS, where is difficult to have urls like the one you told us home/keyword/page.
-- Demetrius

If you have no control over how your CMS outputs web pages then you have three options. 1) Find a programmer to give you that control, 2) find a new CMS or 3) don't worry about it.

Most of the time it's not worth the time, energy, effort or ranking loss that can occur if you change your URL structure. If it isn't broken, then don't try to fix it.

URLs are not a significant factor in achieving good search engine rankings. Honestly, I think there is more of a usability benefit in than SEO. Leaving it as-is is usually the smartest course of action. This is especially true if you're already ranking well. The exception is if your CMS is creating duplicate content that is actually suppressing your search engine ranking performance.

How good is it to use a database driven site vs. a static HTML based website with regards to Search Engines?
-- Kirk

There really isn't any difference as far as the search engines are concerned. The main things you have to be concerned about is ensuring that you maintain control over things like customizing your title tags, description meta tags and the content. Also make sure that you don't create duplicate content or output URLs that are loaded with variables that can cause the search engines not to want to spider the site fully.

Does 4x3 or 16x9 page sizes impact search?
-- Dana

I'm not sure what you mean by 4x3 or 16x9 page size. I've not seen any evidence that the visible size of the web page has any bearing of how the search engines index or rank it. Search engines try to assess the value of a page, if it has value then it's just as likely as any others to perform well in search results.

Can you share some tips for convincing designers/developers to use Absolute LInks? Very difficult to convince in my experience.
-- Carrie

Typically developers don't like using absolute URLs because they want an easy transfer from the development server to the the live server. Absolute links don't allow for that. I wrote a post last week absolute links that you (and they) might want to read. Read the comments too as there is some good insight in there as well.

You can also tell them that they can go ahead and use absolute links and just do a global find/replace on the URLs when the site is rolled out. That doesn't take a whole lot of effort.

What is a 302 redirect? how is it different from a 301 redirect?
-- Kristin

A 302 is a temporary redirect, while a 301 is a permanent redirect. For the most part a 301 redirect is the way to go. Most moves are permanent and you want the engines to treat it as such. When a 301 redirect is used the value of all links pointing to the location will be transferred to the new location. This is what you want because you want the new page to rank well.

A 302 might be used if you want to keep the old URL in the search results. All link juice will stay on the old page but when a visitor or engine hits that page they'll be directed to the new content. The downside of a 302 is you'll eventually start splitting link juice. Some visitors will link to the new content while you keep your old link juice pointed to the old content. Using a 301 will allow all the link juice to be combined and focused on a single page.

How bad is it to not have a side navigation?
-- Nancy

That depends. If you have no side navigation but you still have proper navigation up top then it's not bad at all. There is no rule that says you have to have your navigation on the side. Typically main site navigation is found on the left side or at the top. If you have navigation in either of these two places then you're all set.

Can you provide some insight into the importance of using heading tags? (h1, h2, etc.)
-- Kent

Heading tags are great architectural elements. They help you organize your on-page content into chunks that are easily scannable and allows search engines to determine where that content falls in the overall importance in regard to the rest of the page.

Think of Hx tags as the main points in an outline. The top of the page is your H1, The page topic. Next would come the H2, which would either be your sub-headline or your main points. If you go with the main points, and the page has three of them, then you'd use the H2 tag three times. Next would be the H3, which would represent your sub-points. Each heading tag would then be used as your points go lower and lower in propriety of the outline.

Many feel that your navigation sections should also use Hx tags as well. I feel that navigation is more like a table of contents but concede that there is no reason not to use heading tags in the navigation provided that they are the furthest down the list (H5 and H6.) You want to reserver your uppermost Hx tags for your main content.

They search engines look at text in the headings as an indicator of the topic of the content below. I don't think they give significant more weight to text in headings than the regular body text, but headings can be a great visual indicator to your visitors. Many skimmers read nothing more than the headings to determine what on the page most interests them.

Can you review again products with multiple breadcrumb routes and different URLs? Were you saying in certain cases the different URLs to same product page is OK?
-- Adam

Multiple paths to the same product is great. Different URLs of the same product is not. Many systems will create the URL based on the path the user took to get to the product. This behavior needs to be adjusted. Each product should have one main category which determines the final destination URL. But via navigation and sub-categories, there can be many ways to get to that single product.

It's best if the breadcrumbs reflect the shortest path to that product and the products main category, not the actual path the user used to get to that product.

Name of company to check broken links is what?
-- Nancy
What was the name of the free link checker and please spell it. Thanks so much.
-- Shauna
Please repeat the name of that program to find our broken links.
-- Jay

Xenu's Link Sleuth


Is there a way to hide your HTML code to prevent competitors to steal your design?

-- Carl-Uno

There are some things you can do to try and keep people from viewing your source code, but none of these are really effective. There are programs that will cram all the code into a single line so when viewed you have to scroll horizontally rather than vertically. Your code is still there and it can easily be copied and pasted into a program that will display it "properly."

You can also try and disable the browser 'view source' option or the right-click, but both of these impede on the users experience and create an annoyance more than anything else. And both are easily bypassed.

Essentially, you cannot prevent someone from stealing your source code. Anybody who really wants it can get to it. If you find someone stealing from you then your next best option is to seek legal advice.

That's all for today. Just a reminder, I'll be giving my website architecture presentation at Small Business Marketing Unleashed in September. Space is limited so sign up today while you can still get the early bird discount.


June 23, 2008





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Comments(2)

Is there a specific limit as to how many variables a dynamic URL can have before Google refuses to index the page? I've heard differing opinions on the use of, say, "content.html" vs. "content.jsp?UID=34323". You no doubt have heard of vBSEO, which makes forum pages more SE-friendly by renaming URLs to static-looking .html pages. I know of a few cases where this had great success, but does that mean we should rename all pages with a URL variable in order to maximize rankings?

I wish Google's Webmaster Guidelines would be more specific :)

I've heard that three variables is about the most you want to go, but don't know if there is any definitive number. I think Google might treat each site differently.

As implementing some kind of mod rewrite to change file names this can be good, but again, I don't know if I'd do that if you're already ranking well. It might be unnecessary.

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